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Epistemological puzzle for the day

Aidan raised the following simple but profoundly paradoxical possibility:

The Juggernaut's signature superpower is that, once moving, he cannot be stopped.

The Blob's signature superpower is that, with a firm footing, he cannot be moved.

Given that both these characters have been recurring villains in the same comic book for, oh, only forty freakin' years, you'd really think this angle would have been explored by now. But -- as far as I can tell from memory and the collective nerd wisdom of Wikipedia -- it never has. The weaselly Wikipedists allude to occasions where both character's respective powers have been overcome (in both cases, interestingly, the Hulk was involved), but no canonical Cain Marko / Fred J. Dukes faceoff apparently exists. Where's the pride, Marvel??

By Mrooney at 2006-11-13 01:47 | Mrooney's blog | login or register to post comments | 405 reads

Footing

I seem to remember a picture of the Hulk picking up the Blob. Attached to the blob's feet where columns of earth. It seems fairly obvious that unless the Blob is standing on a several mile high piece of admantium, the Hulk is going to get angry enough to pick him (or depending on which Hulk is out, simply beat him to death) - his body armor is 100 points - which is enough to make sure that Mike Stonebreaker cannot actually damage him.

By AEadmin at Mon, 2006-11-13 08:03 | login or register to post comments

Juggernaut would win

Aidan intuits that Juggernaut would win, and it seems he's right. As the MSH RPG notes, someone with Class 1000 Strength who makes a red Feat roll can move the Blob by uprooting the ground under Fred. The Hulk can do this; and Juggernaut (again according to the MSH RPG) is considered a Class 1000 object for the purposes of his "unstoppable" power. (Speaking of Body Armor, Cain Marko has Class 1000 resistance to physical damage. Yikes!)

By Mrooney at Mon, 2006-11-13 12:10 | login or register to post comments

WOW

That is I had no idea he had class 1000 damage resistence. It's the Juggernaut - everyone run!

By AEadmin at Mon, 2006-11-13 14:21 | login or register to post comments

Juggernaut

He's very much a one-vulnerability, preposterously powerful character. In his first appearance it is implied that he's spent over ten years buried under rock, slowly tunnelling his way out. (And then, I guess, walking from Korea to Westchester, NY -- now there's some lax border security.)

By Mrooney at Tue, 2006-11-14 02:13 | login or register to post comments